1C is a feeble software not able to handle even the average number of users

Simultaneous operation of 1C 7.7 by more than 80 active users is a torture, while operation by more than 150 users is almost impossible. Constant enqueues, buzzes and drop-outs. There are legends about the «1C boosters » that are thought to allow you to work comfortably with 300 or even 400 users. It’s something of the kind of the famous «Internet accelerator». Well, blessed are they that believe.

The situation with 1C 8.2 seems to be slightly better. However, since the 1C company stays true to its traditions, and the new version of the data base management system driver is as crooked as possible, so that even without the statistics, we may claim that the actual limit for regular work will not go beyond 500 users, or it will run into a brain freeze.

Feeble means that the growth of the business will sooner or later be constrained by the information system. However, if your company doesn’t intend to grow big the weak point of the 1C is not sufficient and it might be not too bad an management accounting option for you.
While Ultima ERP really has no upper limit on the number of simultaneous users.

In our practice there is an obvious example of stable simultaneous operation of the Ultima ERP with more than two thousand active users.The employees were working in different cities but in the common information field.

What is common between 1C and Microsoft? That’s right, the same business model: produce [censored — not the best] products and sell them brightly. The models in this case rely on the dubious from the corruption and antitrust perspective methods, such as exclusive agreements with equipment manufacturers and communication with government agencies.

No wonder that in this case, these two came together too: [censored — not the best corporate information system] 1C [censored — not the best] data base management system MS SQL Server, that in most cases aggregates with 1C «eight».

So what’s the output? You’re right, the mega [censored — not the best combination].
The strange as it may seem choice of 1C [censored — not the best]DBMS from a virtually unlimited range of offers can be easily explained by the specific sales talents of Microsoft, that are particularly effective in the Russian reality. We can not be 100% sure, but other explanations — for example, such as that 1C experts are not familiar with the modern DBMS with all our deep respect for colleagues are even less likely.

What does the Customer get in the end? It’s naive to expect this approach to result in high-quality products and high level of service.

However, the talented 1C developers taught the version 1C 8.2 (in less than 10 years of time) to work with variational databases such as PostgreSQL and Oracle. It should seem a step forward, but 1C sticks to its style: the 1 C kernel implements the behavior of MS SQL-type blocking databases. So the minimum optimization of the system performance with regular databases they supply in the basic configuration was achieved through tricks and twists (our fellow feelings for the developers). But any minimal change of logic, modifying pre-defined mechanisms of the database, results in a severe catastrophe. In general, you can see that the system is very customer-oriented.

Ultima ERP was originally designed to operate on the basis of the most productive and reliable DBMS in the world, Oracle. Oracle is the DBMS number 1 in the world, with a market share of 48% — more than four nearest competitors put together.
Ultima is an official partner of Oracle corp.

1C is not for average minds, I mean businesses. Let alone the big businesses.

Historically 1C as a management system was designed for the needs of small business: the company of 3, 5, 10, maximum 30 users.
A small initial functional, simple, and often even primitive business processes, coupled with extensive customization options and superior support of chaotic changes in the requirements of government agencies in the report forms made 1C the monopolist in the lower segment of the market.

Having mastered this fraction, the 1C company decided to move on to new and more marginal markets. In this case it’s the medium-size companies, with their much higher demands.
And then, instead of making the decision to develop a separate software product, with architecture, system and logics oriented on the needs of medium and big businesses, colleagues from 1C armed themselves by files and hammers and started the long and painful process of transformation (see the history of v8.0, v8.1, v8.2) of Frankenstein-style «Lada» into a SCANIA. In the end they couldn’t get even a lorry, the result looked like this.
It’s not a truck, not a passenger car, it doesn’t really go, doesn’t turn, doesn’t pull up, you can’t really load it and God only knows how to fix it in case.
The logics of the 1C managers is very clear: they apparently found it more advantageous to have a single solution, rather than spend money on development and maintenance of two architecturally different ones(as, for example, SAP and <shitty> SAP Business One).
It is difficult to say whether these estimates materialized, but what is clear is that such solutions always affect the interests of customers: Forums of the special web-sites (erp-online.ru, sql.ru and others) are full of negative feed-backs from the employees of large companies that had courage to try to implement 1C as an ERP-system. Surprisingly, large projects can’t enjoy the ever-lasting bargaining chip of low costs: in the end it turns out not cheap at all.
System problems of architecture get coupled with constantly growing complexity of the basic configurations, which requires more and more skills from the implementation professionals. But in the beginning small businesses did not require any highly skilled 1C programmers to implement and modify the products and it was one of the most important strong points of 1C promotion. The conclusion is too obvious to discuss.
Ultima ERP was originally designed for the needs of medium and big business with sophisticated business processes, large number of active users, requirements for scaling systems, the critical importance of preservation of the information, the need to handle a vast number of transactions, full integration with web-applications and work with huge databases.
Most of these features are excessive for small companies if only they’re not planning on immediate growth. For small business there is nothing better than 1C, and our solution will be too heavy, too overloaded and inadequately expensive.
But for medium and big businesses, especially for the ones coupled to Web, it’s just what the doctor ordered.
Render unto Caesar the things that are Caesar’s and a timid horse and deer graze should stay on separate clearings.

Lack of competitive advantages, you will work just like everybody else does

Working on the 1C platform makes you work like most other market participants, sharing the cake with you, because they probably also use the most common in our country 1C.
Business processes are the same, the speeds are the same, the level of costs is about the same too, as a result your abilities are nearly equal, and competitive advantages are technologically unachievable any more. The way to increase the market share lies outside the optimization of the company’s processes, and it’s the customer alone who benefits from the price competition. How long will such short-sighted players last if such a constantly upgrading company with all the modern technologies of process management appears in the market?
Don’t miss your chance to buy a technological competitive advantage for your company, or the competitors see the business results from the implementation of Ultima ERP before.

The cost of the support: the price is not higher
It is believed that 1C has the cheapest support.
It is true, the market basically offers a lot of «experts» of different levers of unskillfulness that are among other things " able to program in 1C." For some funny peanut money.

The quality and reliability, as usual, have to do with the price. If a report or a form is usually within their capacity, any serious project, or simply a complex change of business processes is too hard a nut to crack.
The cost of such work the established companies with at least some hope for quality offer is not any cheaper than that of ours.

Стоимость поддержки: у нас не дороже

Deceptive easiness and cheapness of the apparent modification of configurations of 1C in many cases leads to a disaster.

Unstoppable chaotic changes made without any plan or coordination by constantly changing " 1C programmers " or hired students in some 2-4 years turn a well-balanced basic solution into an indescribable swamp of program code and screen forms, elements of which interact with each other in completely unpredictable ways, and the attempt to dolly something up in one place inevitably leads to an epic fail in another. After all this the 1C becomes a thing in itself, and customers attitude to it can be best described by «do not touch it, it won’t not stink.»

How to fix it? Just as one fixes a faulty designed and constructed building — one knocks the hell down and builds it new.
It will turn out much cheaper, faster and more reliable.

The construction starts again with the project design, which actually is the re-engineering of the business processes. And that is («... & business processing ») - one of our core competencies. Welcome.

We would want to clarify that all of the above can be only applied to all 1C solutions in management accounting. There is no other system that can stand next to 1 C if you mean to get a typewriter and a generator of various accounting junk for government agencies. First of all, because of the quality of support and regular updates.
In 100% of implementations the beloved by the elderly bookkeeper-aunties 1C can be integrated with Ultima ERP.